UJay Baruchel ungumlingisi / umbhali / umqondisi / umlandeli omkhulu wohlobo olwesabekayo. Okwesibili eqondisa ifilimu yesici (owokuqala Goon: Okokugcina kwama-Enforcers), kunengqondo ngokuphelele ukuthi uzongena kuhlobo lwekhanda kuqala nge Izenzo Ezingahleliwe Zodlame. 

Ngokususelwa kunoveli equkethe igama elifanayo (ebhalwe nguJustin Gray noJimmy Palmiotti), uBaruchel uchithe iminyaka esebenza kuskripthi nombhali osebenza naye uJesse Chabot. Umphumela wokugcina yifilimu ethusayo enesitayela, enobudlova, futhi ethuthuke kahle ephonsela inselelo ababukeli bayo, ngenhloso nangokusobala obala izingxoxo ngomthwalo wobuciko nodlame esikweni lethu ngenkathi kusakazwa isibuko ngomsindo.

Ngahlala phansi noBaruchel ukuze sixoxe ngohlobo olwesabekayo, ama-slasher, nokwenziwa kwale filimu ephoqelelayo futhi enamandla.

Ungahlola Izenzo Ezingahleliwe Zodlame kumatiyetha nakokufunwayo eCanada ngoJulayi 31, noma eShudder US, UK nase-Ireland ngo-Agasti 20.

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UKelly McNeely: So Izenzo Ezingahleliwe Zodlame kusekelwe kwinoveli yezithombe. Kepha unezinto eziningi ezinhle kakhulu ezesabekayo lapho, futhi. Zaziyini izikhuthazo noma amathonya akho lapho uqondisa i-movie futhi wenza lezo zinto ezesabekayo zibe uhlobo lwe-pop?

UJay Baruchel: Ngokuyinhloko konke - lokhu kuzwakala kuzwakala kukuhle kakhulu - kepha kuvela ohlotsheni lwesifiso esiqotho sokwenza okuthile kunokuthi, njengokuthi, 'le yi-movie ezosiqondisa izandla zethu'. Ngakho-ke ngokuyisisekelo besifuna uhlobo lokuqhamuka nolimi lodlame lwesikrini olwaluseduze nento yangempela njengoba sasikwazi ukuphatha, uyazi, unikeze noma uthathe. Futhi uma ngisho lokho, ngiqonde ukuthi besifuna ukuthi ivele ngokungahambi kahle, futhi sibe namandla amisayo.

Sifuna ukuhlunga ukungcwatshwa komnyakazo kuwo ngokusemandleni ethu, ukuze izethameli zingalawuleki futhi zihlolisise ukulandelana kwethu. Futhi-ke kukhona ama-movie ambalwa esicabanga ukuthi afike lapho nodlame lwawo. Ngicabanga ukuthi kungaba njalo isikejana inflatable futhi engelapheki, futhi ngokuyisisekelo yonke iflick yeScorsese. Uyazi, ukuqhuma kwakhe kuhlala kunzima njenge-fuck, kepha akukho okwenzekayo okungeke kwenzeke empeleni. Noma kukubi ukubheka, kusenjalo, uyazi, i-physics nokwakheka komzimba kunemithetho, ngakho-ke vele sifuna ukulandela leyo. 

Ukuthinta uhlobo lokungcwaba into yobuciko, umbono wethu wawunjengokuthi, kunesivumelwano somphakathi. Futhi kukhona uhlobo lomculo oluvela kwinkontileka yomphakathi. Sonke sivuka nsuku zonke, sonke sinomkhuba ofanayo nsuku zonke futhi uma siphumile futhi - lokhu kusobala ukuthi kuyinto ese-pre-fucking-COVID lapho abantu bengasazi ukuthi bangaxhumana kanjani omunye nomunye - kodwa ngokuyisisekelo, lapho ushiya indlu yakho, wenza isivumelwano. Ngizohamba eceleni kwendlela, futhi ngizolinda ithuba lami, futhi ngeke ngishaye muntu, futhi ngizokhokha intela yami, futhi ngizolinda kulayini, futhi ngizophuma endleleni uma othile egijima, noma ngabe yini, kukhona uhlobo lomculo olwenzekayo esidlala ngalo sonke.

UKelly McNeely: Le nkontileka yezenhlalo sonke esisayina ngokungazi.

UJay Baruchel: Yilokho impela, futhi lapho kuvela umculo esingase singakwazi ngisho nokubeka iminwe yethu kuwo, kodwa uyawubona uma ume. Ngakho-ke uma uke waphumela ngaphandle futhi lapho kuqubuka impi, noma i-fender bender, noma amaphoyisa axosha umuntu, noma omunye umuntu uyamemeza, noma othile uyadla, noma yini, umculo uphazanyiswa ngokuphelele. Futhi manje seyisebenza ngemitha yalo, futhi awulazi lelo culo. Futhi awazi ukuthi lokhu kuzoya kuphi. Futhi besifuna izethameli zethu zikuzwe lokho.

Uma wake wabukela i-movie ngaphambilini, ungacabanga ngokunengqondo uma ukulandelana sekuqalile, lapho kuzophela khona. Uma uku-movie yesenzo, futhi uyazi, kuqhuma izibhamu, ziqala ukudubula noma umuntu eshaya umlilo emotweni, ngiyazi ukuthi nginemizuzu emine kuya kweyisikhombisa yalokhu. Lapho umbulali ekhipha ummese wakhe, into efanayo yokuganga, akunjalo? Futhi lokho kusabeka kanjani? Uma wazi ukuthi konke okumele ukwenze ukubhekana nesiphepho salesi sikhathi esinqunyiwe esizayo ngokususelwa eminyakeni eyi-100 kanye ne-cinema, esanda kungifundisa ukuthi konke ukulandelana kuyinto equkethe uqobo lwayo. Lokho kukunika ukulawula ebengifuna ukuthi izethameli zingabi nakho. 

Umqondo wami bekungukuthi, ngifuna uma kwenzeka ukubulala kumovie yethu ukuze abalaleli bangazi ukuthi kuzoyaphi. Ngifuna ukungcwaba umlando wokufundwa kwayo ngangokunokwenzeka, ngifuna ukuthulisa i-telegraphing yayo. Isimo esingcono kakhulu kungaba lapho ukubulala kuqala ku-flick yami ukuthi izethameli zifana nani, oh shit, ngabe yilokhu i-movie eyikho eminye imizuzu engama-90? Ngakho-ke kwaba yilokho, futhi kwakutholakala ama-movie esasicabanga ukuthi sifikile lapho.

Futhi okuningi kwakususelwa ezingxoxweni ezazisemuva nomngani wami uGeorge, owabhala zonke izimpi ezikule movie. Futhi ungumlingisi onekhono kakhulu, kodwa ungumculi ophumelele kakhulu uqobo. Futhi sobabili sinama-movie amakhulu, futhi sichitha sonke isikhathi sethu sindawonye lapho singenzi ama-movie. Futhi-ke singena ezingxoxweni eziningi zemibono, futhi izikhathi eziningi kuyehla ukulwa nezigcawu. Futhi besifana, kwenzeka kanjani ukuthi zonke izingilazi zichitheke kumthelela ku-movie? Kwenzeka kanjani ukuthi zonke izihlalo zichitheke kumthelela ku-movie? 

UKelly McNeely: Yonke imoto iyaqhuma.

UJay Baruchel: Yebo! Futhi sonke isibhakela siwela kamnandi. Wonke amabhulokhi alungile. Akukho okunye okungokoqobo! Futhi-ke leyo bekuyinhlansi eholele enhlotsheni yonyaka esiwufakile.

UKelly McNeely: UbunoKarim Hussein owenza i-cinematography Izenzo Ezingahleliwe Zodlame - Ngiyazi ukuthi wakwenza Hobo Ngesibhamu futhi Umnikazi, okuyizinto zombili ezibabazekayo - niqale kanjani ukukhuluma ngolimi oluhlanganyelwe lapho nenza ifilimu? Ngoba inolimi olubukwayo oluhluke kakhulu.

UJay Baruchel: O, kuhle. Ngiyajabula ukuzwa usho lokho, niyabo, nami ngicabanga kanjalo. Into engiziqhenya ngayo ngefilimu ukuthi kunzima ukuyichaza. Abantu bathi, oh kunjalo ngabe kunjani Cabin ehlathini noma kufana Saw noma kufana nokuthi- futhi akuyona neze leyo nto, kuyinto yayo uqobo. 

Mina noKarim, ingxoxo yethu ngale movie iqala ngempela - umuntu angaphikisana - eminyakeni engama-20 nangaphezulu eyedlule, ngoba mina naye sazana kusukela ngineminyaka engu-15 noma eyi-16. Emuva ngosuku ngaphambi kokuba abe ngumdwebi wesinema, wayengumbhali umqondisi, nangaphambi kokuba abe ngumqondisi wombhali, wayengumsunguli weFantasia Film Festival eMontreal, futhi wayeyintatheli yeFangoria. UFantasia kwaba - Bengilokhu ngiya kulowo mkhosi kusukela ngineminyaka engu-14. Futhi lapho ngineminyaka engu-15 noma engu-16, ngangishutha ibhayisikobho eMontreal ebizwa ngokuthi UMathewu Blackheart: Monster Smasher, noFangoria bebeyimboza, bese bethumela uKarim ukuthi ayimboze isethi. Futhi lapho ngithola ukuthi wayengomunye wabasunguli beFantasia, ngilahlekelwe yi-shit yami nama-nerds amabili - uyazi ukuthi kuyini lapho ama-nerds amabili etholana, futhi aqala ukukhuluma i-Linux - kepha-ke saqala ukuwa kungathintwa.

Futhi eminyakeni embalwa edlule, ngiphinde ngambona ngoJason Eisner owangiletha efulethini, njengohlobo oluthile lwento encane yephathi. Futhi uBrandon Cronenberg wayekhona noKarim wayekhona. Futhi ngathi, Karim, ndoda, bengiziqhenya kakhulu ngawe kusuka kude kule minyaka engama-20 edlule, futhi ubefana nokuthi, “Yebo, ngokufanayo!”. Ngakho-ke bekumnandi ngempela ukuthi ekugcineni sifike ekugcineni senze i-movie, okuyisithelo sengxoxo ye-nerdy eyadlula isikhathi esingaphezu kwamashumi amabili eminyaka. 

Ungena nenqwaba yemibono. Akakaze aphelelwe ugqozi nokunye okusha, futhi intshisekelo enkulu kaKarim ukwenza okuthile kwasekuqaleni. Manje, ungeke uhlale njalo, futhi yindlela nje okuhamba ngayo. Kepha lokho kufanele kube njalo ukufisa kanye nomgomo. Futhi uKarim naye uluhlobo oluthile - ngimbiza ngonembeza wami wobuciko. Njengazo, zonke izinqumo ebezinjengalezo ezinzima ukuzenza ngobuciko, sengathi uma sike saba semfolokoleni emgwaqeni futhi kwaba nohlobo lwendlela enambitheka kalula, engeneka yokwenza okuthile - okwakungavamisile ukuthi kube yisifiso sami - kepha uyazi , Ngenza i-movie enesikhathi esilinganiselwe ngemali yabanye abantu, futhi kufanele ngithole abantu ukuthi bayimbe. Ngakho-ke, leyo ngxoxo yokubambeka nokufinyeleleka ihlala ikhona, ihlala ikhona. Futhi ukuba nomuntu ofana noKarim, uyingelosi ehlombe lakho - noma udeveli, uma ubuza abakhiqizi engisolayo - ukuthi nguyena onjengaye, manje hamba kanzima. Cha, fuck it. Uyazi, vele uthembele kulokho esize nakho. 

Ngakho-ke ngangena nge-movie futhi wangena neqembu lonke lama-movie esasicabanga ukuthi ayizindawo ezinhle zokukhomba. Ngangena nge Izicathulo ezibomvu, okuyi-flick yakudala yaseBrithani kusuka kuma-40s noma ama-50s - hhayi kude ukudlikiza okwesabisayo, yize bengingaphikisa ukuthi kuyinto eyoyikisayo ekugcineni - kepha bekungamandla angizwayo lapho ngibuka i-flick, ukuthi bekungathi, oh, ukuthi kuphalethi yombala ngicabanga ukuthi ilungile kule nto. UKarim uza ne-binder yama-DVD.

Isimo sakhe esikhulu ukuthi kwakuyi-stickam flick, leyo kwakuyinhlansi eyaholela kukho konke ukuphefumulelwa kwakhe nayo yonke imibono yakhe. Uhlobo lokuqala olukhulu olukhulu olubonakala lunjengokufana naye, ngizwa sengathi i-movie kufanele ihlale ku-sticam futhi ihlale igeleza njalo. Futhi ngakho-ke i-movie yokuqala ayikhombisile kimi ukuthi yayiyinkuthazo enhle kithi - empeleni noma kunjalo - yayiyiyo Mhlophe ngeso, okuyi-80s flick - i-80s serial killer flick - i-super fucking bonkers movie ne-photography ehlanya ngempela, futhi uma uyibona, ngicabanga ukuthi uzokwazi ukubona, “oh ngiyabona ukuthi ukhuluma ngani”. 

Futhi-ke lapho sesilwazi lolu limi, lapho sike saba nemibono eyanele evela kumafilimu abanye abantu ukuqala uhlobo lwethu lwesilulumagama nolimi. Lapho-ke sisaqhubeka nale ngxoxo, uKarim ubuye athande ukuthi, “kulungile, ngakho-ke ngifunde umbhalo, ngicabanga ukuthi ngibona inhlaka ne-cyan”. Ngathi, oh, ngifuna i-pink. Ngifuna umbala ongumphumela ohlanganisiwe wesihlahla sikaKhisimusi okhanyayo lapho yonke imibala yamalambu kaKhisimusi, lapho wonke ecula ngasikhathi sinye. Njengokuthi ikunikeza ukuthatha okupinki. UKarim ufika ne-amber ne-cyan - umlilo namanzi, lezo zinhlobo zakhe ezimbili ezinkulu angene nazo.

Bese kuthi ngokuhlola okusalungiswa okuyisithupha kohlu lwethu lokudlalwayo ekwakhiweni kwangaphambi kokukhiqizwa, ekugcineni sabona ukuthi ifilimu ibukeka kanjani, okuyiyona - futhi lena yindaba esemqoka, hhayi i-flashback [ngaphakathi kwefilimu] - kepha ukubukeka kwefilimu yi-POV yesipoki esifuna ukwazi. Isipoki esingeyona uhlobo lokushada nanoma ngubani, kepha esinentshisekelo enikezwe sona futhi sixhunywe kuwo wonke umuntu, futhi sinjalo-ke ikhamera yethu iyazulazula futhi ithola imininingwane emincane bese ithola izingcezu bese kuba sengathi uyazi… Ngakho-ke noma kunjalo isipoki esinelukuluku lokufuna ukwazi. Ngicabanga ukuthi bengingaphendula ngaleyo ndlela kalula. 

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