UJosh Ruben ungumuntu osondelene nedolobha ohlotsheni olushaqisayo. Ungumlingisi, umbhali, umqondisi, kanye nomdidiyeli, owaziwa ngamafilimu akhe afakiwe (Ngithuse futhi Ama-Wwolves Ngaphakathi) futhi - muva nje - indima yakhe ku Travis Stevens Inyamazane Elimele, lapho edlala khona umbulali ongazinzile iso lakhe libheke umklomelo omusha. 

Ngaphambi kokuba athole ikhaya ethukile, uRuben waqondisa imidwebo I-Show late Late Show noJames Corden neziqephu ze U-Adamu Uchitha Konke, futhi wayengomunye wamalungu asungula i- IKolishiHumor's "Originals" umnyango (lapho eqondiswe futhi wadlala ngezinkulungwane zezikhindi zamahlaya). Ubengumuntu omatasatasa phakathi neminyaka edlule.

Ngakwazi ukukhuluma noRuben mayelana Inyamazane Elimele, uhlamvu lwemali olunezinhlangothi ezimbili lwe-horror-comedy, nokuthi yini ezayo ngokulandelayo. 

U-Kelly McNeely: Ngiyabonga ngokuthi ulapha ukuze ukhulume nami namuhla, bengivame ukubuka ukukhishwa kwe-shit. College Humor ngenkathi ngisenyuvesi. Ngakho futhi, ngiyabonga ngokungijoyina. Kulelo nothi, okwesabisayo namahlaya kuwuhlobo lwezinhlangothi ezimbili zohlamvu lwemali olufanayo, ngendlela. Yilowo mbono ofanayo wokusetha kanye ne-punchline, akunjalo? Futhi ngiyazi ukuthi unesizinda esibanzi samahlaya, ungakhuluma kancane mayelana nalolo shintsho, futhi kanjani - empeleni - lolo hlobo lwebhalansi lusebenza?

UJosh Ruben: Yebo, ngisho, kukhona izingcezu ezimbalwa ezihlukene zale ngxoxo, eyokuqala okungukuthi, niyazi, kukhona umugqa wokushaya ucingo ongalindelekile, njengokwethusa okungalindelekile. Ngakho unokufana okunjalo. Ngicabanga ukuthi into ekhona ngakho, amahlaya - noma okungenani abenzi bamafilimu bamahlaya, abafana no-Jordan Peele no-Zach Cregger, futhi nginesibindi sokuzibeka eduze kwabo - ngicabanga ukuthi kungani sisebenza yingoba singabaphuhli bomngcele, ngoba siyahlohla futhi siyadlala futhi mhlawumbe sibe nenzuzo encane ekuqapheliseni isiko, ngoba siyasikekela. Noma izinhlobo ezithile zobuntu esifuna ukuzenza; okukhethekile kwami ​​kubonakala kungamadoda anobuthi. 

Ifilimu yami yokuqala yayikhuluma ngendoda ebhuquziwe ethunzini lobukhulu bomuntu wesifazane, futhi ngangifuna ukukugxisha lokho ngamancoko nangokwethuka. Ngakho-ke ngicabanga ukuthi kukhona okuhle lapho, futhi ngokuqinisekile ngaphakathi ohlangothini lwezobuchwepheshe lwakho konke, niyazi, ama-endorphin ngicabanga ukuthi avutha ngendlela efanayo. Izinga lenhliziyo yethu likhuphuka ngendlela efanayo. Ukuhleka okungalindelekile kuthola i-guffaw engalindelekile, lapho ukwesaba kuthola ukumemeza.

UKelly McNeely: Ngiyajabula ukuzwa usho ngoZach Cregger, ngoba Umpheki kwakumangalisa, futhi ngangivame ukuthanda Izingane Ezimhlophe U' Know kanjalo. Ngangingazi ukuthi wayeqondisa ukuthi lapho ngingena kuleyo filimu, ngafunda ngemva kwalokho, futhi kwaba sengathi lapho ngizwa ukuthi Usizi yaqondiswa umfana waseCanada. Yawushaya ingqondo yami! Kodwa, ngifuna ukukhuluma kancane mayelana Ngithuse kanye nobuciko bokuxoxa izindaba, ngoba kuyitiyetha kakhulu futhi kuyaqabukela, futhi ngikuthanda kakhulu lokho. Ukwakheka kwaleyo filimu kwaqanjwa kanjani?

UJosh Ruben: Kwakuwuhlobo lokukopela, futhi mhlawumbe i-meta encane, ngoba yonke imibhalo engangiyibhalile kuze kube yileso sikhathi ngaphandle kokuyichaza ivele yanginika ibhulokhi yombhali. Ngaso sonke isikhathi uma ngiqala ukubhala umbhalo, njengokungathi othile angase abhale inoveli, ngangishaya ikhasi 33 futhi ngangithanda, oh, shit, lokhu kufanele kube yindaba emfushane nje. Noma angizange ngiyicabange yonke le nto. Ngagcwalisa Umthetho Wesibili ngalezo mibhalo - ngalezo zincwadi ezihlulekile - zaba yizindaba ezimfushane, izinganekwane ze-anthology. Kodwa injini yakhona bekuyi-tête-à-tête phakathi kwalaba balingisi ababili, konke ukuncintisana. 

Ukushwibeka kwami ​​kokuqala kokusalungiswa kwaba ngaphezulu - ngicabanga - kusobala ukuthi uFred wayezoba umbulali wengqondo, futhi kwakuyilokho okwakuzoba. Kodwa, ngathi, cha, ake sibe mpunga kancane lo mugqa, ake simenze indoda nje entekenteke eyayiphuze kakhulu utshwala futhi eyayiphathwa isondo lesithathu ngemva kobusuku obungashayi lutho. Ngakho-ke ukuze ngikhulume nje nesakhiwo sayo, ngafaka phakathi nendawo ngayo ngase ngifinyelela kuvuthondaba ngezindaba, ngendlela mhlawumbe ifilimu ye-anthology eyayizodlala ngayo.

U-Kelly McNeely: Wenze kancane ngaphambi nangemuva kwekhamera, okukulethela injabulo eyengeziwe noma injabulo?

UJosh Ruben: Bobabili bayangijabulisa ngezindlela eziningi. Ngicabanga ukuthi ulwazi lwami njengomenzi wefilimu - okungaba yimpendulo yami yokuqala, okungenani kule nkathi yempilo yami - njengomenzi wefilimu manje ngendlela engijabulile ngayo ukuze ngilingise futhi ngilingise ngoba ngigcina kungobo yomlando indlela abanye abaqondisi nendlela engidlala ngayo. abenzi befilimu bakhuluma neqembu labo nabalingisi babo futhi bayaxhumana. Ngakho ngiyafunda. Into ekhohlisayo yilapho ufuna ukumba izinzipho zakho emadolweni akho futhi uthanda, ungasho okuthile noma ungabi wusizo ukuphuma njengomuntu. 

Kodwa ngicabanga ukuthi umzuzu owodwa ngiyeke ukulingisa, noma okungenani ngibe nesasasa kancane ngakho, ngoba ngajatshuliswa ukwenziwa kwefilimu okwesabekayo kwayo, konke ukulawula kwayo, isipiliyoni sayo nokuba namandla nokuba ukaputeni womkhumbi. Kodwa ngicabanga ukuthi uthando lwami lokulingisa aluzange luphele, kodwa lwabuya ngicabanga ukuthi luphindwe kaningana Inyamazane Elimele. Ngenxa yokuthi empeleni kuyindima yephupho ukudlala ubuphekula nokuthuthumela, kanye nokuthi imuvi imele ini, nokuthi ihlakaniphe futhi inobuciko kangakanani.

UKelly McNeely: Futhi ngaphandle kwe-spoiler eningi, umlingiswa wakho Inyamazane Elimele ingabe ungumuntu oyinselele kancane, singasho? Ukulungiselela kanjani lokho? Futhi ukuphonsele inselelo kanjani?

UJosh Ruben: Ukungilungisela kwakukabili, eyokuqala yayiwukuqaphela isifihla-buso sakhe. Ubeyi-peacocking narcissist ngakho-ke empeleni ugqoke imaskhi futhi udala leso sikhathi noma leso sithombe, lapho uMeredith (Sarah Lind) noma yimuphi omunye umlingiswa efulathela le ndoda, futhi bekuzoncibilika futhi ubone. amasu amancane okuthi wayengubani ngempela. 

Ukudlala ngalokho, kodwa futhi njengomuntu ohlekisayo ngokwemvelo, kanye ne-goofball - mhlawumbe - kubantu bempilo yami yomuntu siqu - ngezinga elicasulayo - njengokuhlala kufanele ngisho noma ngenze okuthile okuhlekisayo, noma ukuxubha nokuphrod. Bengikhuluma ngokuphusha imingcele ngendlela enyanyekayo, kwadingeka ngizibeke phansi ukuze ngingabanjwa ngizama ukuhlekisa, futhi ngizame ukuxhumana nokuthile okuyengayo, ngoba yilokho okwenziwa yilo mfana. Kuyindlela adla ngayo. Kuyindlela aheha ngayo abantu besifazane. Ngakho kwadingeka ngidlale i-suave, okuyinto engingakaze ngiyenze; Ngikhululeke kakhulu ngokudlala okuphambene.

U-Kelly McNeely: Ngibonga kakhulu - cishe uhlobo lohlobo oluncane - engithanda ukulibiza nge-Red Flag horror, njengokuthi Fresh ngesinye isibonelo esihle salokho futhi. Ubonakala ungena entweni yokuqala ngayo Inyamazane Elimele; njengomdlali, ingabe lokho kuyakhulula? Noma ingabe lokho kunzima kakhulu ukukubamba?

UJosh Ruben: O, kukhulula kakhulu. Ikhulula kakhulu, ngicabanga ukuthi nganoma isiphi isizathu enginakho, noma okungenani ngithuthuke, ngandlela thile ukulawula insimbi yami. Mhlawumbe lokho kwakungenxa yokuthi ngesikhathi ngisengumlingisi futhi ngingatholi i-ejenti, ngaqala ukungena ekwenzeni amafilimu, ngenza imidwebo nabangane bami. Nangaphambili College Humor, sibe neqembu le-sketch nabanye babasebenzi abafanayo. Ufunda indlela yokulawula insimbi yakho. 

Ngakho-ke ngifunda igumbi, noma ngenze njengohlobo lwami lokulinganisa ukuthi ngiyithatha kude kangakanani into nokuthi ingabonwa kanjani kufilimu, ngicabanga. Ngicabanga ukuthi futhi mhlawumbe ikhono olithola njengomdlali weshashalazi; ngaleso sikhathi, ngangiseshashalazini ngisemncane. Ngakho yebo, bekukhulula ngokuphelele. Ngisho ukuthi, yonke imuvi yayiyinkundla yokudlala, kufanele ngidlale zonke izinhlangothi ze-spectrum engake ngafuna ukuyihlola.

U-Kelly McNeely: Njengengane yaseshashalazini yangaphambili, ngayijabulela ingxenye yekhwaya yamaGreki ethi Inyamazane Elimele. Lokho bekungalindelekile neze. Ungakwazi ukukhuluma kancane ngaleyo ngxenye yefilimu nokuthi ishintsha kanjani ukwesabeka kancane?

UJosh Ruben: Impela. Ngisho, uyazi, ngokusobala, ubuka le movie, futhi ngisho ukuthi, ngingene ngemvume ngoba nguPatrick Bateman Abafileyo Ababi i-cabin kanye ne-Furies yi-Cenobites, uyazi? Ngakho-ke, okuqalayo ukuthi, empeleni kuzwakala njengomuntu obulalayo ophenduka indaba yesipoki. Futhi ekugcineni kuwuhlobo lweqhawe lamaGreki elinamandla, i-feminist phantasmagoric saga, inganekwane, isahluko, nolunye lwalezo zinhlobo - ngeke ngize ngikubize ngenhlekelele, nje indaba yamaGreki. Ngakho-ke ngiyabonga nje ukuthi ishintshe kanjani. 

Ngicabanga ukuthi ukwesaba kuyasuka kuyo yonke into engase izwakale ekuqaleni futhi ijwayelekile, bese ngiphenduka, ngicabanga okuthile kokugibela i-roller coaster, ngoba yini ejabulisa kakhulu kunokuveza indoda engcolile, ne-narcissistic? Yilokho engikuthandayo ngokudlala i-punching bag kulezi zindaba, okwathi ngemva kweminyaka emine engumongameli wokugcina, kufana nokuthi, ingabe akulona yini uhlobo lomuntu ofuna ukumenza azizwe esengozini? Kodwa ngaphandle kokumosha lutho, bakhetha ukwenza noma yini ngaphandle kokuvuma ububi babo.

UKelly McNeely: Futhi futhi, ngaphandle kokumosha lutho, ukulandelana kwamakhredithi okuphela kungikhumbuza kancane isiphetho pearl, ngiphinde ngibambe lokho imizuzu emingaki, kuthathe isikhathi esingakanani lokho? Ingabe kwaba sengathi ingunaphakade? Kwakuzothatha isikhathi esingakanani ngaphambi kokuba kunqunywe?

UJosh Ruben: Hhayi-ke, uTravis (Stevens) wagqugquzelwa ukuthi avele ashuthe yonke ireli yefilimu yalolo chungechunge, futhi ireli yefilimu iyimizuzu eyi-11. Ngakho-ke kukhona ukulandelana kokugcina kwamakhredithi - ngicabanga ukuthi imizuzu emihlanu futhi uyashintsha - ngakho-ke kukhona eminye imizuzu emihlanu eyinqaba egumbini lokuhlela lalokho okubonayo. Bekujabulisa, ngisho, bekusezinsukwini ezimbili zokugcina zokudutshulwa. Ngakho-ke ngaleso sikhathi sase sisonke, uyazi, amaningana, ubusuku obuningana bokudutshulwa ngobusuku obubodwa. Amaviki amabili okulala azokwenza ukuthi ulungele noma yini. Ngakho kwakujabulisa. 

Wonke umuntu wangibuza, bekungaphathekile kahle? Linjani iso lakho, linjani igazi lomgunyathi, futhi ugqoke itoga, kufanele ngabe belibanda futhi yonke le nto. Ngisanda kuzwa ukugxila kukagesi nokuzibophezela. Ngicabanga ukuthi sonke sakwenza, sazi ukuthi yilokho esizokwenza sonke. Futhi manje, niyazi, ngineqiniso ukuthi niyazi njengawo wonke umuntu, amafilimu kufanele athi ukuchaphaza, kuba yinto abantu abakhuluma ngayo. Ngakho-ke uma ungabazisi ubuciko noma i-giallo yakho konke, noma uhlobo lwenganekwane yakhona yabesifazane, hheyi, kufanele ubone le nto ngenxa yalesi sizathu. 

Kufana nokuthi kungani ngijabule ngokubona Unxantathu 2, angizange ngiyibone nengxenye yokuqala. Kodwa abantu bathi o, kufanele ukubone ngenxa yalesi sizathu. Ngakho-ke, ngiyajabula ukuthi kunento ethile kuleyo filimu eyenza abantu bathande, o, kufanele ngikuhlole lokho.

U-Kelly McNeely: Ngingakutshela ukuthi ungumlandeli owesabekayo, ingabe ukwethuka bekulokhu kuyingxenye yesisekelo sakho, noma yinto oyithole kamuva nje? Futhi ufuna ukuqhubeka nokusebenza kuhlobo?

UJosh Ruben: Bekulokhu kuyingxenye yesisekelo sami. Ngangingumlandeli owesabekayo ngaphambi kokuba ngibe umlandeli wamahlaya. Udadewethu uRachel, uyena owangazisa ezithandwa zika Amaphupho amabi kaFreddy noStephen King's Iso LikaKati. Futhi njengengane yama-80s, abazali bakho abaqiniseki ukuthi bangahlulela kanjani ifilimu ngobuciko bekhava, ngakho bafana nokuthi oh, Imfene Iyakhanya, kumayelana nethoyizi, ungalibuka. 

Futhi ngifuna ukuqhubeka nokwenza amafilimu athusayo. Impela kweyodwa noma emibili elandelayo - noma ngabe yini enginelungelo lokuyenza - ngifuna ukuphusha izethuso futhi ngibone ukuthi ngingakwazi yini ukudansa lowo mugqa othambile wokuwugcina uhlekisa. Ngakho-ke ngiphusha okwesabekayo ngokuqinisekile, futhi ekugcineni, ngifuna ukuhlola ezinye izinhlobo ngokuqinisekile. Ngiyayithokozela ifilimu yamahlaya noma isethi yamahlaya, kodwa futhi njengengane yasetiyetha, ngiyawuthanda umculo, ngijabulile ukufaka mhlawumbe umculo noma ukudansa kwenye yamafilimu phansi komugqa, mhlawumbe nohlobo oluthile. Ngakho-ke sizobona ukuthi lokho kuphuma kanjani.

U-Kelly McNeely: Njengomlandeli owesabekayo, ngingathanda ukuthi uncome i-movie ethusayo ukuze uthande umlandeli we-hardcore horror. Uma kukhona oke wabona I-Exorcist, sebebonile The Thing, sebebonile, uyazi, zonke izisekelo, iyiphi imuvi ongayincoma?

UJosh Ruben: O, wow! Umlandeli we-hardcore horror? Ngingancoma kumlandeli we-hardcore horror eyodwa engingazange ngiyibone isikhathi eside, kodwa ngiyazi ukuthi iqinile, ngukuthi - oh gosh, manje sekuvele okwesibili ekhanda lami... oh, manje okwesithathu - Ngingancoma Amandla okuQala; ifilimu ephethe u-Lou Diamond Phillips, futhi empeleni - ngokusuka kulokho engikukhumbulayo, ngisho ukuthi, yayingethusa kakhulu ngiseyingane, mhlawumbe uma uyivula manje izokhanya kakhulu, kodwa kusukela kulokho. Ngiyakhumbula ukuthi kwakushubile. Uhlobo a Fallen-isakhiwo se-esque yilokho engikukhumbulayo, impahla, kodwa kungenye yezokuqala engizikhumbulayo. Kukhona futhi uhlobo olufana nesenzo esibi kuso futhi. 

Lokho kanye engikwaziyo iqiniso ukuthi i-hardcore eyodwa ebizwa Izingxenye umzimba. Ngokuyisisekelo lolo usuku lwanamuhla Frankenstein. Inesihluku ngempela, i-gory ngempela, futhi isenzo esincane futhi. Mhlawumbe ukuthuthumela okuncane ngalesi sikhathi, angisakhumbuli, uyazi, ukuthi bekuyimbi kanjani, kodwa ngicabanga ukuthi ngenkathi ngineminyaka engu-10 ngiyibuka, ngimncane kakhulu. Ngakwazisa ngezizathu okufanele sizenze.

Kelly McNeely: Amafilimu amaningi obuwenza muva nje, Izihlobo Zegazi muva nje kuphume iShudder, futhi Ngithuse futhi Inyamazane Elimele, bonke banekhaya ku-Shudder, okumangazayo ngoba inkundla enhle kakhulu… kulelo nothi elifanayo, ingabe ikhona ifilimu ye-Shudder ongayincoma kakhulu?

UJosh Ruben: Kufanele uhlole uBrian Fuller's Queer for Fear idokhumentari. Ngicabanga ukuthi wonke amadokhumentari abo ayamangaza. Kukhona futhi Ungaphinde Ulale Futhi, engiqinisekile ukuthi kuseku-Shudder. Kufana nehora lesishiyagalombili I-Nightmare ku-Elm Street idokhumentari. Kuyamangaza, ngikwazile ukukubuka futhi. Ngiqonde ukuthi, ihamba kuwo wonke amafilimu futhi u-Robert Englund ukhona, kanye no-Heather Langenkamp, ​​no-Wes Craven, izithombe eziningi ezigcinwe kungobo yomlando nokunye okunjalo. Kodwa ifilimu yefilimu? Oh gosh, ngisho, ngicabanga ukuthi wonke umuntu kufanele ahlole Ngithuse Zihlobo Zegazi, Inyamazane Elimele, Futhi Ubani Obamemile, iphinde ihlelwe nguPatrick Lawrence owenza Ngithuse kanjalo.

UKelly McNeely: Manje yini elandelayo kuwe?

UJosh Ruben: Nginenoveli ewumfanekiso ephumayo ewuhlobo lwenhlonipho othandweni lwami Izindaba ezivela ku-Crypt, okuzwakala sengathi bekuyinganekwane ohlelweni lwe-TV, ngethemba, kwabanye abantu. Kungase kugcine kusonteke kakhulu ngendlela engathandwa ngabantu. Ngakho lokho kubizwa UDarla, futhi lokho kuzophuma ngonyaka ozayo. Futhi ihambisana ne-Invader Comics, eboniswa ngu-Brianna Tippetts, oyiciko engithanda ukusebenza nalo. 

NoMichael Kennedy, umbhali weBlumhouse's Okuxakile, mina naye sisebenza kumdlalo wamahlaya othusayo engiwuthanda nje, engifisa ukuwenza. Futhi kukhona ezinye izinto ezivele zintante, awukwazi ukuthi kuzokwenzeka, kodwa ngifuna ukukuphinda. Darkman noma okungenani ukulandelana kwefa. Ngicabanga ukuthi uLiam Neeson ufuna ukukhahlela imbongolo futhi mhlawumbe aphinde afake amabhandishi.

U-Kelly McNeely: Uma esibonise noma yini ngezinketho zakhe zakamuva zokulingisa, ukuthi konke afuna ukukwenza ukukhahlela imbongolo, uyazi?

UJosh Ruben: Ngicabanga kanjalo! Ngicabanga ukuthi yingakho kufana nokuthi, kulungile, kungani okungenani ungenzi eyodwa ewuhlobo oluthile lwe-skewing, uyazi? Akudingeki ube umshayeli weloli emgwaqeni weqhwa noma yini.

UKelly McNeely: Noma othile ozama ngempela ukubuyisela izingane zakhe.

UJosh Ruben: Ngiyakuthola, ngiqonde ukuthi, ngiyakuthola.

U-Kelly McNeely: Umbuzo oyinqaba, ingabe kukhona oke ufise ukuthi othile angakubuza kwinhlolokhono? Ingabe unombuzo wenhlolokhono ongashiwo ofana nawo, o, ngifuna ukukhuluma ngale nto eyodwa?

UJosh Ruben: Ngisho ukuthi, ngiyathanda - usuvele ubuze imibuzo yobuchwepheshe, njengezinto ezimayelana nenqubo, ngihlala ngingazi lutho ngalokho. Noma kunini noma ubani ebuza - ikakhulukazi abenzi bamafilimu - mayelana nenqubo yabo, uyazi, ukuvimba kanjani konke, khuluma nabalingisi, uxhumana kanjani, noma i-chemistry yakho konke lokho, zonke lezo zinto. Lezo yizinhlobo zemibuzo engiyithanda nje. Kodwa ngokwazi kwami, uwashaye wonke lawomamaki. 

Kodwa futhi yingakho ngidla uMick Garris ' Thumela isidumbu, ngoba nangempela uyangena. Ngakho-ke angazi, mhlawumbe ngolunye usuku uma ngithatha umhlalaphansi noma sengisondele kuyo, ngiyovele ngenze enye efana, enobuchwepheshe obudlulele, engathi angibabuzi ngisho nabenzi bamafilimu ukuthi iyini imvelaphi yabo, ngivele ngilunge. like, wenza kanjani?

UKelly McNeely: Uyenza kanjani? Wenzani? Usebenzisani? Bhala phansi konke. 

UJosh Ruben: Yebo, kakhulu, ngokuqondile. Thola umqondisi we Izingxenye umzimba bese umbuza ukuthi wenzeleni.

Chofoza Lapha ukuze ufunde isibuyekezo sikaBri Inyamazane Elimele, manje isakaza ku-Shudder.