URobert Eggers wethuse izethameli ngefilimu yakhe yokuqala, The Witch, futhi ngokushesha yaba igama okufanele ulibuke emkhakheni we-cinema yohlobo. Isifiso besilokhu sakha ukukhishwa kwefilimu yakhe entsha, Isibane, ukwehla okunomkhuhlane osangene okuqhutshwa yimidlalo emibili esindayo yezinkanyezi uRobert Pattinson noWillem Dafoe.

Ngisanda kuba nethuba lokuxoxa no-Eggers mayelana Isibane, ukusebenza kwayo kokungqongqoza, nezinselelo eziyingqayizivele zokwenza ifilimu ngokunakekela okunemininingwane enjalo.

Chofoza lapha ukuze ufunde isibuyekezo sami esigcwele of Isibane kusukela ekuqaleni kwayo ku-TIFF

UKelly McNeely: Okokuqala, kwakuyini uhlobo lwefilimu? Luvelaphi lolu hlobo lomqondo? Kwazalwa kanjani lokho?

URobert Eggers: Umfowethu ubesebenza emdlalweni wesikrini athi ubumayelana nendaba yesipoki endlini yesibani, futhi ngicabange ukuthi lokho bekungumqondo omuhle futhi bengithemba ukuthi akazukuya kude kakhulu nami ukuze ngicele imvume yakhe yokuntshontsha . Futhi yilokho okwenzekile ngoba ngenkathi ekhuluma ngendaba yesipoki endlini yesibani, ngathwebula lo mnyama omnyama nomhlophe, uqweqwe, uthuli, itiyasi, umoya ogqwalile, Usizi kusukela endaweni yesidlo sakusihlwa sokuqala. Futhi bengifuna ukuthola indaba ehambisana nalowo mkhathi. 

Ngakho-ke emuva ngo-2011 noma ngo-2013, noma into enjalo, lapho ngiqala ukusebenza Isibane, The Witch sahlangana futhi ngemuva kwalokho ngabiza umfowethu ngathi, bheka, ake sibhale lo mbhalo wesibani ndawonye, ​​ngakha ezinye izinto ezinkulu, futhi ngicabanga ukuthi kungaba ukuhlakanipha ukuba nokuthile okuncane ephaketheni lami langemuva. Ngakho-ke sithathe amakhasi wami ayi-10 we-screenplay kanye namanothi amaningi nezithombe sakuguqula kwaba le movie ndawonye eminyakeni embalwa edlule.

UKelly McNeely: Unokuzinikela okuhlaba umxhwele ngempela esikhathini nemininingwane yobuhle kanye nomkhathi, phakathi kokukhanyisa kwemvelo, ukwakhiwa kwesethi, ukubukeka kwe-orthochromatic, kanye ne-1.19: 1 ratio. Ngabe ungakhuluma kancane ngenqubo yokuhlanganisa nokwakha zonke lezo zinto kwifilimu?

URobert Eggers: Yebo, ngiqonde ukuthi, konke kuluhlobo lwento eyodwa, ngihlala ngicwaninga ngenkathi ngibhala, futhi ngiqoqa izithombe ngenkathi ngibhala, futhi izithombe zingakhuthaza izingqikithi nanoma yini, ngoba le filimu inomlando omude kangaka impilo yokwenza amafilimu. Kade ngikhuluma noJarin Blaschke i-DP ngalokhu unyaka, futhi besinazo zonke izinhlobo zemibono ehlukile. Futhi konke kuvele kwehlele ekugcineni, njengokuthi yini esingabeka kuyo izandla zethu? Futhi, uyazi, besizofuna ukuthi ilidubule kusitoko sefilimu se-orthochromatic ongasithenga ngokuthwebula izithombe, kepha akekho noyedwa ongasenzela lokho ifilimu yezithombe ezinyakazayo ezingama-35mm, futhi besingeke sikwazi ukuyikhokhela uma sifuna uku. Ngakho-ke sahlala ku-bwXX, i-negative emnyama nomhlophe engakaze ishintshe kusukela ngawo-1950. 

Abamnyama baphuma ngokuzumayo ngendlela eyanelisa kakhulu, inokuhluka okuncane kakhulu, futhi uyazi yini okunye? Njengo, ikhona! [ehleka] U-Jarin wabe esesebenza noSchneider ukudala isihlungi sangokwezifiso ukusinika ukubukeka kwe-orthochromatic, bese iPanavision ivula ikhabethe labo lamalensi angaqondakali kuJarin ongangena njengomfana wesikole we-giddy futhi athole zonke izinhlobo zobuningi. Sine ngicabanga ukuthi isibhamu ezimbili noma ezintathu ezine-lens zoom esingazi nokuthi iyini, ivelaphi, futhi yenziwa nini. Ngakho-ke bacabanga, "UJarin kufanele akubheke lokhu" [ehleka].

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UKelly McNeely: With The Witch, Ngiyazi ukuthi inkhulumomphendvulwano ikhishwe emibhalweni yomlando. Yayiyini inqubo yokubhala inkhulumomphendvulwano ye Isibane?

URobert Eggers: Yebo, i- The Witch inemisho eminingi engaguquki evela emithonjeni yesikhathi. Ukuzikhukhumeza kwami ​​ngaleso sikhathi, kwakuwukuthi ukuhlonipha la maPuritan ayedlulele kakhulu ezinkolelweni zawo nasekubukeni kwawo emhlabeni kangangokuba ngangidinga ukusebenzisa, amagama asetshenziswayo. Kule movie, mina nomfowethu besingenayo imisho eminingi ebingaguquki - kukhona eminye, kodwa hhayi eminingi. Kepha sidweba nje emithonjeni yethu yesikhathi ukuthola indlela yokubhala inkhulumomphendvulwano yethu.

Umthombo owusizo kakhulu kwakunguSarah Orne Jewett, ovela ezweni elidala elihle laseMaine. Wayebhala esikhathini sethu futhi wayexoxisana nabantu abasebenza ogwini lwaseMaine, futhi ebhala izindaba zakhe eziyinhloko ngolimi lwesigodi. Futhi-ke umkami wasitholela ithisisi eyayimayelana nomsebenzi wesigodi eSara Orne Jewett owanikeza imithetho yezilimi ezehlukene ngakho-ke sasingacacisa ngomsebenzi wethu. Kepha uDafoe unezigwebo ezimbalwa ezingashintshi ezivela ngqo kukaputeni basemanzini asebathatha umhlalaphansi emsebenzini kaJewett, okuthiwa waqhamuka ngqo kukaputeni basolwandle asebathatha umhlalaphansi. 

UKelly McNeely: Kuthiwani ngama-accents? Ngoba kukhona ama-accents athile abawasebenzisayo Indlu yesibani.

URobert Eggers: Ngakho-ke indlela akhuluma ngayo uRob ifana, uyazi, igama elidala elinesikhathi saseNew England. Njengokuthi kusekelwe ezwini elingasempumalanga, kepha ngicabanga ukuthi uma uyiNew Englander yangempela, uyazi, uthola ukunambitheka kothile ongazange abe yindawo eyodwa eNew England impilo yakhe yonke. Ngithenge imoto yami yomndeni ngenkathi ngivakashele abazali bami muva nje eNew Hampshire kanti umthengisi wezimoto wakhulela eBoston wathuthela eMaine, kwase kuba yiNew Hampshire, futhi wezwakala esondele kakhulu kuRob, bayafana kancane. Ukugcizelela kukaDafoe kuyinto engokwemfundiso nge-Rhotic R– i-hard R, i-pirate Arr - enalokho okusogwini lwaseMaine, siyazi ukuthi lokho bekuseNew Brunswick buqamama nasenyakatho, naseNova Scotia okuthe ukuqhela enyakatho kunalokho.

UKelly McNeely: URobert Pattinson noWillem Dafoe bayakhuthazela ngempela; baya ngaphezulu nangaphezulu ngemizimba yabo nemizwelo yabo. Ngabe kwake kwaba khona iphuzu lapho kwakufanele ubuyise izinto emuva?

URobert Eggers: Lutho neze. Uyazi, yindaba eyedlulele futhi laba ngabalingisi ababili abazinikele ngokumangazayo, abanothando, nabasebenza kanzima abalandela izinto eziyinselele, futhi abafuna ukuphoqelelwa kuze kube semikhawulweni yabo futhi angizange ngidinge ukubuyisela izinto emuva. Nami bengingadingi ngempela ukuphusha izinto, ngoba bebefuna ukunikela ngokusemandleni abo kule movie. Kube nezingxoxo eziningi emaphephandabeni esikhathini esedlule mayelana noRobert Pattinson efuna ukungishaya ebusweni ngesigcawu esithile. Kepha uma lina ngaphandle futhi imvula ingafundi eduze, kuzofanele ukhiphe ipayipi lomlilo ukuze lifunde imvula. Futhi lokho akulula. Kepha uyazi ukuthi uRob wayefisa ukungilimaza ngokomzimba, ngangingakwazi lokho ngaleso sikhathi ngoba wayenguchwepheshe njengesihogo futhi wayefuna ukwenza isiqiniseko sokuthi lowo mzuzu wawumuhle ngangokunokwenzeka. 

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UKelly McNeely: Yiziphi izinganekwane owakhipha kuzo ukwakha le ndaba? 

URobert Eggers: Amathambo endaba asuselwa kulokho okuthiwa yindaba eyiqiniso. Kuvame ukubizwa ngokuthi yiSmalls Lighthouse Tragedy, futhi kwenzeka eWales cishe ngonyaka we-1800. Futhi kwakungabagcini bezindlu zokukhanya ezimbili, bobabili ababizwa ngoThomas, omunye omdala kunabo bonke, bathola isiqhingi esiqhingini sabo esiteshini sabo sokukhanya ngoba kunesiphepho. Kufa omdala, bese kuthi omncane ancane. Kunokuphela kwenganekwane engingeke ngikudalule, kepha ungabheka kalula. Futhi leyo bekunguhlobo lwe genesis yalokhu - noma-ke leyo bekuyimbewu etshalwe ukuze indaba ikhule kusuka kuyo. 

Ngenkathi uMax - umfowethu owabhala lokhu nami - futhi bengiqhubeka nokuyikhipha le ndaba, savele sathi kithina, yiziphi izinganekwane zakudala noma izinganekwane esizihlelile ngephutha? Nge The Witch Ngangibheka uHansel noGretel, phakathi kokunye, ngemuva kokuthi sengikubhalile engangikubhalile ukuhlunga ukufaka kabusha iHansel neGretel-isms. Ngakho-ke sizibuze ukuthi yiziphi izinganekwane zakudala esizihlobise lapha ukuze sizame ukufaka izingqikithi, imidwebo nezithombe. Sikhethe ama-classical motifs ngenxa yokuqondaniswa kwezinganekwane zakudala ezenziwa nguDafoe ngeziphonso zasolwandle ezazikhuthazwa nguMelville. Ngakho-ke kukhona i-mishmash yezinto ezahlukahlukene kusuka ku-Proteus kuya ku-Prometheus ukuthi amanye ama-classicist angacasulwa ukuthi sihlangene, kepha, ngicabanga ukuthi kulungile. 

UKelly McNeely: Ngiyakuthanda ukusetshenziswa kokukhanyisa kwemvelo kuzo zombili The Witch futhi Isibane. Yini ekukhuthaze ukuthi uqophe ngaleyo ndlela? 

URobert Eggers: UJarin Blaschke - i-DP - futhi ngithanda indlela yemvelo. Ukukhanyisa ku- Isibane isitayela esenziwe ngaphezulu kune- The Witch; The Witch ngokoqobo isebenzisa ukukhanya kwemvelo nelangabi kubo bonke ngaphandle kwesibhamu esisodwa noma ezimbili, ngaphandle kwezindawo zasebusuku okusobala ukuthi zidinga ukukhanyiswa. 

Isibane, ngakolunye uhlangothi, isebenzisa i-black and white negative ebingakashintshi kusukela ngawo-1950 ngakho-ke kudinga ukukhanya okuningi ukuze kuvezwe. Kodwa-ke, asizange siyikhanyise njenge-movie yakudala; yize ukukhanya kukhanya impela futhi kunehaba nge-chiaroscuro, ngokungafani nama-movie amadala, sisebenzisa imithombo yokukhanyisa esebenzayo esendaweni ukukhanyisa izigcawu. Lokho kusho, akulona ilangabi kuleso sibani sikaphalafini ngoba awusoze wavezwa elangabini. Ngakho-ke sine-600 watt halogen bulb ku-flicker dimmer edala lokho kubukeka okufana nelangabi. Futhi ngiyayithanda, ikakhulukazi emnyama nomhlophe ngoba iyalokoza, uyazi, njengebhayisikobho endala. Isithombe sinomoya, uma ngingaba yigugu kangaka. 

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UKelly McNeely: Ngiyakuqonda ukuthi wakhe isethi yonke, okuyinto engakholeki. Ziyini izinselelo zokuthwebula endaweni? 

URobert Eggers: Yebo, sakhe zonke izakhiwo ozibonayo kule filimu, kufaka phakathi umbhoshongo we-70 lighthouse tower. Asikwazanga ukuthola indlu yesibani ebisisebenzela, besingayitholi enokufinyelela okuhle komgwaqo ebingasebenza ukudubula kuyo. Kepha ukwakha enye kusho ukuthi besinokulawula okuningi. Ngakho-ke, ngokudubula endaweni ngokwakha amasethi amaningi kusinikeze ithoni yokulawula. Lokho kusho, ukuze sixoxe kahle le ndaba, sikhethe indawo engajezisi kakhulu lapho sazi khona ukuthi sizothola isimo sezulu esibi. Futhi-ke lokho kube nezinkinga eziningi - akunakwenzeka ukuhamba ngokushesha njengomuntu ngaphansi komoya onamandla onethwa imvula enamandla, futhi uyazi emazingeni okushisa angaphezulu nje kweqhwa futhi awukwazi ukuhamba ngokushesha; ikhamera izobhidlika. Ngakho-ke kunezinselelo eziningi, kepha akekho okhonondayo. Yilokhu esikubhalisele. Besifuna ukuphonswa inselelo.

Isibane ikhishwe kumathiyetha alinganiselwe e-US ngo-Okthoba 18, ngokukhululeka okukhulu okuzolandela ngo-Okthoba 25.